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Surprisingly, today morning.. I went to school at 6.30am
Not for classes, but to study. Weirdo case.
Those living in the hostel are slumberring through as usual.
I went online after a peak through on physics.
79mails. Facebook and Friendster notification crap.
What that surprises me is that:
A few reply from Professor Kantley, Mr. Robert S.B. from atheism.com
due to my query about definition on ultimate being as the Supreme, Moral and Religion and
Relation about Science and Religion as including the discovery of Higgs Boson.
This is what they gave me:
Mr jacby91,
I hope you will have a better understanding for your questions. Please follow the link below,
http://atheism.about.com/od/whatisgod/What_is_God_Definitions_Characteristics_and_Attributes_of_God.htm
Contents are highly controversial and debatable. My advise is that you use the articles for research studies only, not public debates. Thank You.
Here's the extract:
When a theist claims that a god exists, one of the first questions atheists should ask is "what do you mean by 'god'?" Without understanding what the theist means, the atheist simply cannot evaluate the claim. By the same token, unless the theist is very clear about what he means, he cannot adequately explain and defend his beliefs.
When debating the existence of god, perhaps the most important step is the one that gets overlooked the most often, and by both atheists and theists: defining what is meant by the concept 'god.' You can't debate the existence of something unless everyone is clear what it is they are talking about;
otherwise, people might be talking about completely different things.
God as Abuser: Similarities Between the Christian God and Abusive Spouses
It's common for Christians to compare the relationship between humanity and God to that between husband and wife. God is the "man" of the house to whom humanity owes obedience, respect, and honor. Usually this relationship is portrayed as one of love, but in far too many ways, God is more like an abusive spouse who only knows how to love through intimidation and violence.
A review of classic signs and symptoms of spousal abuse reveals how abusive the "relationship" people have with God is.
It's common for Christians to compare the relationship between humanity and God to that between husband and wife. God is the "man" of the house to whom humanity owes obedience, respect, and honor. Usually this relationship is portrayed as one of love, but in far too many ways, God is more like an abusive spouse who only knows how to love through intimidation and violence.
A review of classic signs and symptoms of spousal abuse reveals how abusive the "relationship" people have with God is.
Index of Attributes and Characteristics
The one thing that differentiates atheists from theists is that the latter believe in some sort of god while the former don't. If they are going to debate the existence of any gods, it's critical that understand just what it is they are talking about and why.
What's the point of debating the possible existence of God if no one has tried to come to an agreement as to what they mean by God?
I believe this is very true. The definition itself is uncertain.
The one thing that differentiates atheists from theists is that the latter believe in some sort of god while the former don't. If they are going to debate the existence of any gods, it's critical that understand just what it is they are talking about and why.
What's the point of debating the possible existence of God if no one has tried to come to an agreement as to what they mean by God?
I believe this is very true. The definition itself is uncertain.
Why Defining God is Important
It might seem to some that discussing the nature, attributes, and character of a supposed god doesn’t make a whole lot of sense unless there is some reason to think that this god or even any gods exist in the first place. After all, isn’t discussing whether or not a god is omnipotent or omniscient just a waste of time if we have no good reason to suppose it even exists?
Omnipotent is oftenly used to describe the ability of a deity:
: Seeking a deity's omnipotent, human tend to rely on god's ability to accomplish what they feel unachievable. But the strength in their heart boost their morale without them noticing.
the fact is, they accredit the supreme for their success, not themselves, resulting higher reliance,
a fall in confidence on self-ability.
It might seem to some that discussing the nature, attributes, and character of a supposed god doesn’t make a whole lot of sense unless there is some reason to think that this god or even any gods exist in the first place. After all, isn’t discussing whether or not a god is omnipotent or omniscient just a waste of time if we have no good reason to suppose it even exists?
Omnipotent is oftenly used to describe the ability of a deity:
- A deity is able to do anything that is logically possible for it to do[1].
- A deity is able to do anything that it chooses to do[2].
- A deity is able to do anything that is in accord with its own nature (thus, for instance, if it is a logical consequence of a deity's nature that what it speaks is truth, then it is not able to lie).
- Hold that it is part of a deity's nature to be consistent and that it would be inconsistent for said deity to go against its own laws unless there was a reason to do so.[3]
- A deity is able to do anything that corresponds with its omniscience and therefore with its worldplan
- A deity is able to do absolutely anything, even the logically impossible.
: Seeking a deity's omnipotent, human tend to rely on god's ability to accomplish what they feel unachievable. But the strength in their heart boost their morale without them noticing.
the fact is, they accredit the supreme for their success, not themselves, resulting higher reliance,
a fall in confidence on self-ability.
God Exists: Necessary & Self-Existent
It might seem odd to list "existence" as an attribute of God, but that's not actually the point here. Of course believers think that their god exists - what is at issue is how God exists. According to philosophical theism, God exists in a very special and unique way: God's existence is necessary rather than contingent.
It might seem odd to list "existence" as an attribute of God, but that's not actually the point here. Of course believers think that their god exists - what is at issue is how God exists. According to philosophical theism, God exists in a very special and unique way: God's existence is necessary rather than contingent.
God is the Creator & Sustainer of Existence
A very common attribute of gods in religious traditions around the world is that of creation — our universe, our world, and indeed our very selves often owe their existence to creative acts of the gods. In the Western traditions of philosophical theism, the existence of everything is owed to a single creative act by a single perfect God.
This is not a definite argument that applies on all religion.
Buddhism as an example, denies the theism claim that Everything is the creation of the Supreme.
Instead, Buddhism theorised that life is an energy, Nature built itself and sustains itself, claiming that the life cycle occurs naturally, as buddhism doesn't focus on worshipping a Supreme Being, for there isn't any.
A very common attribute of gods in religious traditions around the world is that of creation — our universe, our world, and indeed our very selves often owe their existence to creative acts of the gods. In the Western traditions of philosophical theism, the existence of everything is owed to a single creative act by a single perfect God.
This is not a definite argument that applies on all religion.
Buddhism as an example, denies the theism claim that Everything is the creation of the Supreme.
Instead, Buddhism theorised that life is an energy, Nature built itself and sustains itself, claiming that the life cycle occurs naturally, as buddhism doesn't focus on worshipping a Supreme Being, for there isn't any.
Faith is Unreliable & Unreasonable: Faith is Not a Source of Knowledge
A common characteristic of both theism and religion is their reliance on faith: belief in the existence of a god and in the truth of religious doctrines is neither founded upon nor defended by logic, reason, evidence, or science. Instead, people are supposed to have faith — a position they wouldn’t consciously adopt with just about any other issue. Faith, though, is an unreliable guide to reality or means for acquiring knowledge. Faith can be used to defend anything and everything equally.
Faith leads to an accusation, manipulation and explanation of rare possibilities reflecting the occurance of an event.
A common characteristic of both theism and religion is their reliance on faith: belief in the existence of a god and in the truth of religious doctrines is neither founded upon nor defended by logic, reason, evidence, or science. Instead, people are supposed to have faith — a position they wouldn’t consciously adopt with just about any other issue. Faith, though, is an unreliable guide to reality or means for acquiring knowledge. Faith can be used to defend anything and everything equally.
Faith leads to an accusation, manipulation and explanation of rare possibilities reflecting the occurance of an event.
Gods & Theists Behave Immorally: How Can Moral Gods Behave Immorally?
In most religions, gods are supposed to be the source of all morality. For most believers, their religion represents an institution for promoting an ideal model of morality. In reality, though, religions are responsible for widespread immorality and gods have characteristics or histories which make them worse than the most vile human serial killer. No one would tolerate such behavior on the part of a person, but when with a god it all becomes laudable — even an example to follow.
A good example is the traits of roman-gods. Some with Violence, lust and Greed for power.
Gods Are Too Similar to Believers: Gods Probably Created in the Image of Humans
A few cultures, like ancient Greece, have postulated gods which appear to be as natural as human beings, but in general gods are supernatural. This means that they are fundamentally different from human beings or anything on earth. Despite this, however, theists consistently describe their gods in ways that make the supernatural appear almost mundane. Gods share so many characteristics with humans that it has been argued that gods were made in the image of man.
In most religions, gods are supposed to be the source of all morality. For most believers, their religion represents an institution for promoting an ideal model of morality. In reality, though, religions are responsible for widespread immorality and gods have characteristics or histories which make them worse than the most vile human serial killer. No one would tolerate such behavior on the part of a person, but when with a god it all becomes laudable — even an example to follow.
A good example is the traits of roman-gods. Some with Violence, lust and Greed for power.
God is Provident & Sovereign: God Acting in Human History
Although not usually given much attention, one critical attribute of God for many believers is the idea that God is ‘provident,‘ which means that God acts in some fashion that requires God to become involved with humanity and causes the course of human history to be aligned with God's ultimate desires and purposes.
Although not usually given much attention, one critical attribute of God for many believers is the idea that God is ‘provident,‘ which means that God acts in some fashion that requires God to become involved with humanity and causes the course of human history to be aligned with God's ultimate desires and purposes.
God is Incorporeal: Mind without Body?
It is commonly taken for granted that, when talking about God, we are discussing a being who has no body and is not in any way constructed from matter or energy - both of which are features of the "created universe" rather than the "uncreated God." This attribute of incorporeality should not be taken for granted, however, because it has important implications for other divine characteristics.
It is commonly taken for granted that, when talking about God, we are discussing a being who has no body and is not in any way constructed from matter or energy - both of which are features of the "created universe" rather than the "uncreated God." This attribute of incorporeality should not be taken for granted, however, because it has important implications for other divine characteristics.
God is Immutable: Why can't God change?
Philosophical theism commonly ascribes to God the attribute of "immutable" - the idea that God cannot and does not change. Whatever God is like now is the way that God was for all of the past and the way God will be for all of the future. It doesn't matter what happens elsewhere, God always and inevitably remains the same. Why do people believe this? Does it make sense to say God cannot change?
Philosophical theism commonly ascribes to God the attribute of "immutable" - the idea that God cannot and does not change. Whatever God is like now is the way that God was for all of the past and the way God will be for all of the future. It doesn't matter what happens elsewhere, God always and inevitably remains the same. Why do people believe this? Does it make sense to say God cannot change?
Gods Are Too Similar to Believers: Gods Probably Created in the Image of Humans
A few cultures, like ancient Greece, have postulated gods which appear to be as natural as human beings, but in general gods are supernatural. This means that they are fundamentally different from human beings or anything on earth. Despite this, however, theists consistently describe their gods in ways that make the supernatural appear almost mundane. Gods share so many characteristics with humans that it has been argued that gods were made in the image of man.
It is an misinterpretation to assume atheism includes denying the existence of spirits or ghost beings.
In details, Spirituality is a subject independent from the debate of god.
The debate on this subject is more towards the definition of Supreme Being, its ability and traits, teh relation with human behavior.
My stand is at neutral, my point is not on teh debate, but for what I can learn from both sides.
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